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RE: Thoughts on stepping down to Pup

I had my Jayco in the shop the other day, which gave me an opportunity to look around at the latest offerings. Even though I have criticized hybrids in the past, I looked at a 21 ft. Starcraft hybrid that was awesome.
If I could not store a TT (or hybrid or whatever) at my house and also have a great TV I would stick with the the PUP.
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09/09/08 10:00pm |
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Easy way to tell if your propane system has a leak...

In (4) Easy Steps:
1. Purchase an Electronic tank meter - I got mine at Costco, but I have seen them at Brookstone as well. Very Easy to hook up. They are very handy.
2. Once installed, pressurize your system by just opening up your valve all the way (back off a 1/2 turn for good measure).
3. Turn on your meter - it should read full or something similar (assuming you have adequate level in your tank)
4. Now close the tank valve. The meter should still read full (or similar). If not, you probably have a leak.
I can't think of a reason why this method would not work for leak detection. It won't tell you where it is though.
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borkosk
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09/09/08 09:25pm |
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RE: Thoughts on stepping down to Pup

The only way I would go back to a TT is if I had a diesel truck or SUV.
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borkosk
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09/09/08 09:16pm |
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Propane and High Altitude

I have been having on going problems with my propane system on my 2007 Jayco. The water heater flames out (pilot and everything goes out), my heater would not turn on during a trip, sometimes I can't get all of the burners to light on my stove.
It's been back to the dealer twice to try and fix these problems, but during my July trip I still had the issues.
However, my last trip everything worked fine - I was at the beach.
Then it occurred to me that each time I have a problem I seem to be at high altitude (5000 or more feet).
Anyone else have a similar experience?
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borkosk
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08/11/08 12:58am |
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RE: Thoughts on stepping down to Pup

My thoughts exactly - to good to be true.
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borkosk
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08/03/08 11:57pm |
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RE: Thoughts on stepping down to Pup

$9995 for a 14HW sounds like a really good deal.
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borkosk
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08/03/08 09:18pm |
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RE: Thoughts on stepping down to Pup

I had the same experience with my Starcraft: used it 2 years and sold it for the same amount I bought it for. On top of that I sold it in less than a week - and that was when gas was relatively cheap compared to today.
I got 15+MPG towing with a V6 Explorer.
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08/03/08 12:27pm |
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RE: Thoughts on stepping down to Pup

Comments from a current PUP owner whose last rig was a 27ft. TT:
1. In my experience PUP's tend to hold their value much better than TT's, and are not always cheaper than TT's (used)
2. IMO they are not a step down at all compared to a TT - I like them better
3. Cassette toilets work well and have plenty of capacity
4. Yes, PUP's can be very comfortable
5. Gray Water: You can run a hose to the sewer connection, or I also have a short hose and just use a bucket when I can't run directly to a sewer connection
6. Towing: Compared to a TT, it's a pleasure...
7. Roofs: When I cut out a section for my AC, I found the roof was a sandwich of aluminum structural foam and aluminum. Seemed very strong - I could not even flex it with my hands at all.
8. As a highwall owner, what you have heard is wrong IMO. The main advantage is less setup and take down and higher counters. Still way easier to tow vs. a HTT ot TT.
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borkosk
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08/03/08 12:02pm |
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RE: Jayco HW 14

Not sure if this will help, I have a 2007 12HW.
WDH not needed, but I tow with an Excursion.
Overall we are happy with ours, we have had some warranty issues still being worked out.
I don't think you can go wrong with a Jayco - great warranties.
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borkosk
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08/02/08 09:11pm |
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RE: Portable AC

I went through this issue and finally decided to do it the "right way".
Installed the roof unit, added strip heat - all for considerably less than $500.
Well worth the money.
The roof top units are not that hard to install either - seriously, just about anyone could do the install.
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borkosk
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08/02/08 01:47am |
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RE: How beneficial is a slide out dinette?

Very Beneficial in my experience.
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08/02/08 01:42am |
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RE: after 2 seasons...bye bye PUP.....

I know that this subject has been well addressed in this thread and in others.
However....I have owned both a TT and (3) PUP's (currently own a Jayco PUP), and I was somewhat glad to get rid of the TT.
It was a fairly new 27' Forest River - it was a pain to tow, a pain to hook up (WDH among other things) not to mention the gas mileage issue.
Long trips? Forget about it - stay at a hotel. In our PUP, not a problem.
As far as raising and lowering the PUP - I would bet that 90% or more people on this forum need the exercise anyway.
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07/31/08 09:53pm |
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RE: Forest River Rockwell HW256

I took the machine screw to Home Depot, the closest fit was:
M6-1.0
Screw Length: 1 Inch (the threaded part)
Stainless Steel
Countersink Style/Phillips
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borkosk
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07/29/08 09:52pm |
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RE: Forest River Rockwell HW256

I took the screw out - it looks like a 1/4" fine thread with a counter sink type phillips, about 1" long.
I will verify.
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borkosk
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07/29/08 12:02am |
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RE: Forest River Rockwell HW256

I have the series06 on my 07 Jayco. I'll take a screw down to Home Depot and post here.
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07/27/08 10:00pm |
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RE: I did it, I tore the popups material and did my first mod!

I ripped the tent fabric on our PUP (about 6") - had the dealer do the repair and you really have to look to see the tear. Well worth the $125 (I think...)
I took it to Richardson's RV in Sun City (near Perris).
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07/27/08 09:57pm |
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RE: Lightning and PUP's

The "CG" we were at was more like a parking lot - totally open with no trees even close by. The CG was about 1/2 full and we were basically by ourselves out in the open.
I pulled up Doppler radar and the storm was right over our heads. We went to the hotel lobby (Grand Canyon Railroad Resort/RV Park) while it passed by.
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07/19/08 12:12am |
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Lightning and PUP's

Last week while camping in Northern Arizona a thunderstorm rolled in at around 4AM. After about 10 minutes we decided to head for some solid shelter.
As I understand, that was probably a smart thing to do as tent trailers do not provide much protection against lightning.
At first I thought "were grounded," but I'm not sure that would really help though.
Anyone have some specific knowledge on lightning and tent trailers?
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borkosk
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07/17/08 11:53pm |
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RE: Any tow with a Nissan Quest?

Most minivans built in the last 5 years have plenty of power to pull a popup up the long grades.
From experience, my old classic Bethany weighs 3000 empty and pushes 4000 loaded for a long trip. I pull it with a 200 HP 3.9 liter Freestar. It's so easy and comfortable my wife now takes turns driving on trips. We roll down the interstate at the speed limit (maybe 5 over) in OD most of the time. When the hills start, I drop into 3 and run 65. The van never breaks a sweat. Towing mileage runs 18-20 on the open road, and that's with front and rear AC running.
In WI that might work, have you ever towed in truly mountainous areas? The way I go to Big Bear, Cal. we reach an altitude of ~8,500 ft. Gas engines loose lots of power at that altitude - even my Excursion has to work on that high pass.
The reason I mention this is b/c I would rather tow with a minivan - our Excursion is a brute. But I also like to be able to more or less maintain speed limits.
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01/13/08 03:44pm |
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RE: Any tow with a Nissan Quest?

Interesting, although here in the Great Southwest we have some looong grades - that's where I think I would run into trouble. My PUP weighs 2700 empty, probably 3500 as equipped.
The other issue is descending the numerous steep grades in Southern California, although I think a 2008 Chrysler M-Van with the 4.0 litre could probably handle it.
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01/13/08 02:09am |
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